Comments on: The Bogi Yogi Series – Part one http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/ Where True Love Begins Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:20:40 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Akshay http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-69 Akshay Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:49:26 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-69 hare krishna, Its only the problem of gurus who claim themselves to be god.did paramahansa yogananda did not claim himself to be god nor did ramakrishna paramahamsa........no one did.they were acting in the spirit of servants of god. THEY WERE MAHATMAS.srila prabhupad is the best example. GOD IS NOT MADE GOD.HE IS ETERNAL. you were saying ISKCON attacks all outside gurus.We have a very strong philosophy .......with every word we say we back it up with a scripture.its been clearly very clearly stated in SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM ABOUT THE DIFFERENT incarnations of krishna and i kindly ask you to go thru it.Its only for making people aware about the truth do we say all this and not to blaspheme anyone or to establish our supremacy.If u wish to prove your point please quote it from a scripture and not just like that.hare krishna hare krishna,
Its only the problem of gurus who claim themselves to be god.did paramahansa yogananda did not claim himself to be god nor did ramakrishna paramahamsa……..no one did.they were acting in the spirit of servants of god. THEY WERE MAHATMAS.srila prabhupad is the best example.

GOD IS NOT MADE GOD.HE IS ETERNAL.
you were saying ISKCON attacks all outside gurus.We have a very strong philosophy …….with every word we say we back it up with a scripture.its been clearly very clearly stated in SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM ABOUT THE DIFFERENT incarnations of krishna and i kindly ask you to go thru it.Its only for making people aware about the truth do we say all this and not to blaspheme anyone or to establish our supremacy.If u wish to prove your point please quote it from a scripture and not just like that.hare krishna

]]> By: Krystian http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-68 Krystian Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:36:56 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-68 "why dont you talk about why should we accept sai now?" Why don't you answer my questions fully. "even his advaitist philosophy of “everyone is god” and “i am god”" Not every Vaishnava is dualist like you, so please have some tolerance. I'll give you the reference soon. Why do you attack all gurus outside ISKCON and all Hindu paths other than Gaudiya Vaishnavism while you accept Christianity and Islam? "im getting more information about them, and also ho[pe to go visit them soon, so keep an eye out, one bogi yogi at a time, the biggest first…" Do you mean to say that Sri Sri, Amma, Mother Meera, Yogananda etc. are all fake. Why did you quote a passage from the Brahmananda Purana allthough you believe it's Rajaasic? “why dont you talk about why should we accept sai now?”

Why don’t you answer my questions fully.

“even his advaitist philosophy of “everyone is god” and “i am god””

Not every Vaishnava is dualist like you, so please have some tolerance.

I’ll give you the reference soon.

Why do you attack all gurus outside ISKCON and all Hindu paths other than Gaudiya Vaishnavism while you accept Christianity and Islam?

“im getting more information about them, and also ho[pe to go visit them soon, so keep an eye out, one bogi yogi at a time, the biggest first…”

Do you mean to say that Sri Sri, Amma, Mother Meera, Yogananda etc. are all fake.

Why did you quote a passage from the Brahmananda Purana allthough you believe it’s Rajaasic?

]]> By: gopala http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-67 gopala Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:39:46 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-67 Vishnu and Markandeya from the Mahabharata as reffering to Sai Baba.?? show me this reference... also if you read up on kalki you will see that it cannot be sai, because they name the area he is born, the time, his purpose, his beaty, his parents names etc, which cannot be sai... especially the beauty part... lol... and about the other avatars? im getting more information about them, and also ho[pe to go visit them soon, so keep an eye out, one bogi yogi at a time, the biggest first... Vishnu and Markandeya from the Mahabharata as reffering to Sai Baba.?? show me this reference…

also if you read up on kalki you will see that it cannot be sai, because they name the area he is born, the time, his purpose, his beaty, his parents names etc, which cannot be sai… especially the beauty part… lol…

and about the other avatars? im getting more information about them, and also ho[pe to go visit them soon, so keep an eye out, one bogi yogi at a time, the biggest first…

]]> By: gopala http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-66 gopala Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:36:07 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-66 jesus was not a VAisnava guru, he opnly preached love of god... bhavisya purana is of prophecies so naturally it would be older than its contents... also we have no reason not to accept jesus as opposed to satya sai... even his advaitist philosophy of "everyone is god" and "i am god" is unnacceptable, unlike jesus, "love of god" .... thats the piont... why dont you talk about why should we accept sai now? jesus was not a VAisnava guru, he opnly preached love of god… bhavisya purana is of prophecies so naturally it would be older than its contents… also we have no reason not to accept jesus as opposed to satya sai… even his advaitist philosophy of “everyone is god” and “i am god” is unnacceptable, unlike jesus, “love of god” …. thats the piont… why dont you talk about why should we accept sai now?

]]> By: Krystian http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-65 Krystian Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:06:21 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-65 How are you sure that this refers to the Jesus from the Bible? The Bhavishya Purana was composed ages before the Christian era (I'm not sure but it's quite likel). Read about the gruesome additions by Christina propagandists to the Bhavishya Purana in the book "The True History and Religion of India". See also the website hamsa.org , especially the part with the interview with Ishwar Sharan. And answer the question: if Jesus were a Vaishnava Guru why doesn't the Bible contain a single reference to him talking about the worship of Lord Krishna/Vishnu? The Shastras contain a prophecy of Kalki which can be reffered to Sathya Sai Baba. How do you answer that? His devotees also point to the conversation between Vishnu and Markandeya from the Mahabharata as reffering to Sai Baba. Today in India there are many great gurus who claim to be Avatars. Why don't you battle them, only Sai Baba? How are you sure that this refers to the Jesus from the Bible? The Bhavishya Purana was composed ages before the Christian era (I’m not sure but it’s quite likel). Read about the gruesome additions by Christina propagandists to the Bhavishya Purana in the book “The True History and Religion of India”. See also the website hamsa.org , especially the part with the interview with Ishwar Sharan. And answer the question: if Jesus were a Vaishnava Guru why doesn’t the Bible contain a single reference to him talking about the worship of Lord Krishna/Vishnu?

The Shastras contain a prophecy of Kalki which can be reffered to Sathya Sai Baba. How do you answer that? His devotees also point to the conversation between Vishnu and Markandeya from the Mahabharata as reffering to Sai Baba. Today in India there are many great gurus who claim to be Avatars. Why don’t you battle them, only Sai Baba?

]]> By: Gopala http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-64 Gopala Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:52:27 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-64 With Salivahana asking Jesus, "Who are you?" to which Jesus replies: isa-putram mam viddhi kumari-garbha sambhavam "I am the Son of God (isa-putra) and I am born of a virgin (kumari-garbha)."(19:23) Bhavisya purana.(and Many more texts) When Jesus Spoke those words you quoted,the context he said it in is very important. He is keeping in context with vedic teachings, where the common saying "like father like son' comes into play,and though i am able to represent my father, i also may have his qualities, i will even be called bythe same name MrGopal, but i am not my own father. so in the context jesus was talking in line with qualities of his father. also being the ONLY salvation is also correct when following with the authorisation of the vedas and the parampara,for the christians he was the only bona fide guru, andtherefore the ONLY path of salvation for them, Jesus onlY preached love of God, and was therefore a guru. He Never Said "I am God". Sastradoes not defeat Jesus, for he has done nothing to award himself a sastric battle,however, Sathya SAI can easily be defeated by sastra, because he is not GOD... With Salivahana asking Jesus, “Who are you?” to which Jesus replies:

isa-putram mam viddhi
kumari-garbha sambhavam

“I am the Son of God (isa-putra) and I am born of a virgin (kumari-garbha).”(19:23) Bhavisya purana.(and Many more texts)

When Jesus Spoke those words you quoted,the context he said it in is very important.

He is keeping in context with vedic teachings, where the common saying “like father like son’ comes into play,and though i am able to represent my father, i also may have his qualities, i will even be called bythe same name MrGopal, but i am not my own father. so in the context jesus was talking in line with qualities of his father.

also being the ONLY salvation is also correct when following with the authorisation of the vedas and the parampara,for the christians he was the only bona fide guru, andtherefore the ONLY path of salvation for them, Jesus onlY preached love of God, and was therefore a guru. He Never Said “I am God”.

Sastradoes not defeat Jesus, for he has done nothing to award himself a sastric battle,however, Sathya SAI can easily be defeated by sastra, because he is not GOD…

]]> By: Krystian http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-63 Krystian Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:43:03 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-63 Any evidence this reffered to Jesus? And Jesus did claim to be God. He said "I and my father are one' and said that he is the only path to "salvation". Any evidence this reffered to Jesus?

And Jesus did claim to be God. He said “I and my father are one’ and said that he is the only path to “salvation”.

]]> By: gopala http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-62 gopala Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:45:34 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-62 1. Jesus never proclaimed to be God 2. He is mentioned in the brahmanada purananda purana as "isha putra" son of god. etc... 1. Jesus never proclaimed to be God

2. He is mentioned in the brahmanada purananda purana as “isha putra” son of god. etc…

]]> By: Krystian http://thekrishnalovers.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-61 Krystian Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:11:14 +0000 http://gopalkeerty.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/the-bogi-yogi-series-part-one/#comment-61 Could somebody explain why Prabhupada considered Sai Baba a fraud because he wasn't mentioned in the Scriptures and had no problems excepting Jesus although there was no mention whatsoever of Jesus??!! Could somebody explain why Prabhupada considered Sai Baba a fraud because he wasn’t mentioned in the Scriptures and had no problems excepting Jesus although there was no mention whatsoever of Jesus??!!

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